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Post Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:06 am

NGC2359

Tried to follow Chris' video for pixelmath to make a green channel from Ha+Oiii. I need a lot more subs as I have only 7 each of Ha+ Oii @1200s. I do not have any dks or flts or bias yet. I had a master dk from last week @1200s but when I added it it added aweful streaks to the picture. So I am going to try again and see it there was a light leaking source somewhere. It is cloudy and rainy the next 2-3 days so maybe by wed or thurs I can try and get 7 more ea of the Ha + Oiii.

I am having a hard time trying to get the gradient background even. I tried Gradient Ext. in PS but still not happy. I am happier with my sub acquisition lately but the post processing is tough. Chris and Zach make it look so easy. I hope I get that smack on the head moment someday soon :banghead: and figure something out.

Any way here is what I have so far. I think living in a red/white zone sucks too. Just saw something on the news about the Phx light pollution and seeing or not seeing stars.

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Post Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:19 am

Re: NGC2359

Thor's Helmet isn't an easy one to process, that's for sure. Zach and Chris do make it look easy, but, we all know it's not easy. I've always known that no matter hard "I" try, I'm never going to be able to replicate someone else's work. However, I do find it inspiring to see others work to keep me moving forward.

I think you're doing a great job! Just to put it into perspective a little. Take a look at Thor's Helmet on APOD:
https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap021205.html
Is your Thor's Helmet better? HELL YEAH!

Keep up the good work!
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Post Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:50 am

Re: NGC2359

Yup i th8 k thats a pretty damn good start. I tried this last week and failed. I screwed up the focus and also with my focal length the target is tiny. So i think youve done a good job on a super tough target. Just gotta keep playing around with the images and you eventually hitnthat sweet spot. Keep it up.
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Post Tue Feb 28, 2017 8:20 am

Re: NGC2359

Great job on a tough target! You may not get the fine details on this one based on the imaging scope focal length, and camera pixel scale. You really need a long focal length scope to get up close and reveal the smaller details. What scope did you use?
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Post Tue Feb 28, 2017 8:32 am

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I used the 127 with the 3" .07 fr/ff. and Atik460. I am shooting with this scope and camera trying to get everything dialed in. I tried the Atik on the At8rc but could not get set up well that night. I am going to continue this scope and camera combo for now, and if I can get more than 1 night a week without clouds, I am going to try the QHY9 with the 8RC and see what I can figure out.
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Post Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:36 pm

Re: NGC2359

Also thanks for the votes of confidence. I thought it needed a lot more but was nice to see an APOD comparison, Thanks Doug. Maybe I should of put the color version in the feb photo of the month contest.

I am going to try for two more nights and get 7 more each of Ha and Oiii to see if it will help any. We are supposed to get a few clear nights and temps up to 85° this next week.

Is there something in processing to get rid of the red ring around the brighter stars? Either PS or PI.
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Post Tue Feb 28, 2017 8:42 pm

Re: NGC2359




Enter it!
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Post Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:17 pm

Re: NGC2359

I got 7 more 1200s Ha last night and getting 7 more 1200s Oiii tonight then moving on to another target. It will be interesting to see if it makes any difference.
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Post Wed Mar 01, 2017 8:53 pm

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It can't hurt...unless you already got 35 frames of each already. :what: :smile111:
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Post Thu Mar 02, 2017 5:02 am

Re: NGC2359

No. I only have 7 ea so far so now 14ea. So 9+ total hrs. I has trouble with the darks before so I am going to try and get a new set of calibration sets next cloudy night.
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Post Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:16 pm

Re: NGC2359

Whick camera are you using? You need to start with the calibration files. No reason not to use them at this stage. Take the BIAS and DARKS indoors. No need to setup for that. Keep the cover on the CCD and take the calib files. Make a flat light panel, or box. This way your always using the same exposure legnth for flats. Take Flats after every run. I spent 50 bucks on my DIY flat panel. These won't help your gradient issues but they will at least start your processing with the cleanest possible stack. Are you selecting subs for quaility or throwing them all in? If using PI, BLINK every stack. Trash the junk, eggs, anything Winsor can sort out.
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Post Sun Mar 05, 2017 4:57 pm

Re: NGC2359

Here is another try with 14 subs each. I still followed Chris' video for NB in PI. I think it is a bit clearer than the first, and a better background.

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Post Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:09 pm

Re: NGC2359

Thats looking really good!
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Post Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:08 pm

Re: NGC2359

Thanks Zach. I need to get a calibration library going so I can try stacking in PI. Tonight though I am going to center on Sirius at twilight. It shows in the ES127 scope WITH .005S exposure before I can actually see it well with blueish skies and once I am aligned I am going to switch out the 127 with the RC8 and see if I still can see it. If so I may try to go to a "close to Sirius target" and see what I can get figured out with the rc. And Thor is "close to Sirius". If I can see it I may try some Ha's
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QSI690 WSG-8 - SX Lodestar X2
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Post Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:25 pm

Re: NGC2359

I am waiting to hear back on the rc that im looking at. Hope you figure it out and can give out somee pointers.
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Post Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:41 pm

Re: NGC2359

Are you trying for the White tube one on CN? You will have one soon enough I am sure. I sure hope to get mine figured soon.
Takahashi TSA120 - ES127CF - Atlas EQ-G - Celestron Advanced CG5 GT
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Post Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:52 pm

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I am actually yes. Seemed like it was in good shape.
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Post Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:24 pm

Re: NGC2359

Nice, I hope you are the one pending. Seems like a great price.
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QSI690 WSG-8 - SX Lodestar X2
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ES 152 AR - 12" Goto Dob
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Post Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:00 pm

Re: NGC2359

Yes Rick! Great Thor's Helmet! I don't think people realize how difficult this target is to capture and process. You need all of your tricks in your bag to snag this target. Congrats!

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Post Tue Mar 07, 2017 4:28 pm

Re: NGC2359

gardenfish wrote: Tonight though I am going to center on Sirius at twilight. It shows in the ES127 scope WITH .005S exposure before I can actually see it well with blueish skies and once I am aligned I am going to switch out the 127 with the RC8 and see if I still can see it.


I could not take off the 127 and put on the RC8 withouth the mount moving so I kept the 127 on and shot M81.










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QSI690 WSG-8 - SX Lodestar X2
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ES 152 AR - 12" Goto Dob
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